NEI080 – Asperger’s, Autism, and ADHD
NEI080 – Asperger’s, Autism, and ADHD
Dr. David Goodman and Dr. Sabrina Siegel examine the nuanced relationship between autism spectrum disorder, formerly known as Asperger’s Syndrome, and ADHD. They explore the overlapping features that can complicate diagnosis, such as executive dysfunction, social awkwardness, and narrow interests. Dr. Goodman explains the evolution of diagnostic frameworks, challenges in teasing apart symptoms in adults, and why developmental history remains key to accurate clinical assessment.
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Podcast:: NEI Podcast
Episode:: NEI080 – Asperger’s, Autism, and ADHD
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✅ Pre-Lesson Quiz (Before You Listen)

  1. What are some overlapping traits between ADHD and autism spectrum disorders?
  2. How did the DSM-5 change the classification of Asperger’s Syndrome?
  3. What role does social communication impairment play in autism diagnosis?
  4. How can clinicians differentiate social anxiety from autism-related interaction difficulties?
  5. Why is developmental history crucial in distinguishing ADHD from ASD?

🧠 Summary

Dr. David Goodman and Dr. Sabrina Siegel examine the nuanced relationship between autism spectrum disorder, formerly known as Asperger’s Syndrome, and ADHD. They explore the overlapping features that can complicate diagnosis, such as executive dysfunction, social awkwardness, and narrow interests. Dr. Goodman explains the evolution of diagnostic frameworks, challenges in teasing apart symptoms in adults, and why developmental history remains key to accurate clinical assessment.


⏱️ Timestamps & Highlights

  • 00:00 | Introduction to the autism-ADHD overlap
  • 04:10 | Shared features: executive dysfunction, focus issues, rigid behaviors
  • 08:30 | DSM-5 removal of Asperger’s and the shift to ASD levels
  • 13:15 | Differentiating social awkwardness from social anxiety
  • 17:45 | Why misdiagnosis is common in high-functioning adults
  • 22:30 | How ADHD can mask or mimic autistic traits
  • 28:00 | Clinical utility of trait-based vs. categorical models
  • 33:15 | Importance of caregiver history and educational reports
  • 38:00 | Treatment considerations and managing patient expectations

🔍 Quiz Answer Key & Explanations

1. Traits like inattention, difficulty with transitions, and social discomfort appear in both ADHD and ASD.
2. DSM-5 merged Asperger’s into the broader ASD spectrum, removing it as a separate diagnosis.
3. Impaired social-emotional reciprocity and restricted interests are core diagnostic features in ASD.
4. Social anxiety stems from fear of judgment; ASD social challenges are more about interpretation and initiation.
5. A developmental history helps determine symptom onset, persistence, and context—key in differentiating ADHD from ASD.


📝 Key Takeaways

  • Overlap between ASD and ADHD can lead to under- or misdiagnosis, especially in adults.
  • Executive dysfunction and communication difficulties may look similar but arise from different origins.
  • The removal of Asperger’s as a category has both clarified and complicated ASD diagnosis.
  • Understanding patient function in different social settings is critical to assessment.
  • Treatment goals must be realistic and personalized, especially in neurodiverse populations.

❓Review Questions

  1. How can clinicians distinguish rigid thinking in ADHD versus ASD?
  2. What are the implications of removing Asperger’s Syndrome as a separate diagnosis?
  3. How does executive function impairment differ in ADHD and ASD?
  4. Why is early developmental history a cornerstone of neurodevelopmental diagnosis?
  5. What role does neurodiversity play in shaping clinical language and treatment planning?

📚 Further Reading & Resources

  • American Psychiatric Association. (2013). DSM-5: Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders.
  • Attwood, T. (2007). The Complete Guide to Asperger’s Syndrome.
  • Volkmar, F. R., & Wiesner, L. A. (2009). Essential Clinical Guide to Autism.
  • NEI Podcast Archive: https://neiglobal.com
  • Autistic Self Advocacy Network: https://autisticadvocacy.org

🙏 Credits

Host: Dr. Sabrina Siegel
Guest: Dr. David Goodman
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